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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 26, 2009 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: ...and "The Jerry" goes to....

OK, so it's early, but the yahoos in Hollywood just announced their Oscar nominations for this year, which got me to thinking...about how much i hate the Oscars. I mean, I NEVER agree with what they end up choosing (No Country for Old Men as best picture last year? That freaking movie didn't even make any SENSE! And then there's how they always screw up giving out Best Actor awards not when they should but years later...trying to make up for it with the wrong pick (i.e. Paul Newman wins for Color of Money instead of The Hustler, The Sting, The Verdict, or any other number of great films he did earlier in his career....but....I digress.)

I decided that we at the forum should combat all this Oscar madness with our own awards show: The Jerrys.

So here's the deal: Between now and Oscar night, we create categories and nominees (5 per category; no exceptions; just like the Oscars.) I'm providing some categories to get us started and would like to recruit others to follow suit. The voting itself can happen later, or never, or whenever. Basically, I have a day off from work today and have some time to kill.

So, without further ado, here are the starter categories for "The Jerrys":

BEST SHOW OF THE 1970's (i'm taking this decade b/c it's the one I know best...I nominate William Tell to do a "best of the 1960's", SDH to do a "best of the 1980's" and "best of the 1990s" is up for grabs (maybe stratocaster?) anyhoo....remember, you can only nominate 5:

1) 10/29/77...(I'm the Master of Ceremonies--is anyone surprised I picked this show? Clips & review available here: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1977-10-29.sbd.miller.92085.sbeok.flac16 )
2) 8/27/72...How could they have played so beautifully in such scorching heat? A PITB for the ages, a Top 3 Birdsong, and so much more.
3) 8/13/75...(One From the Vault): Back from hiatus the band introduces flawless rebdeitions of mostly "Blues for Allah" material...and other great stuff. They're back and badder than ever.
4) 12/31/78...Farewell to Winterland. A loving tribute to the old skating arena and a kick ass show to boot. Dark Star, Terrapin, Scarlet>Sugar Mag...all on New Year's Eve. 3 marathon sets, all great.
5) 10/27/79...The Dead rock the Cape and kill the Cod. Brent starts to make his presence felt. Long, hot, crazy show highlighted by a Dancin'>Franklin's that they still talk about to this day over at the Woods Hole Clam Shack.

...and the Jerry goes to:


Next category: BEST PLAYER IN A SUPPORTING ROLE.

The nominees are:

1) DUANE ALLMAN: Fillmore East, 4/26/71...the greatest Allman of them ALL (sorry) joins the band for Sugar Mag and Hurts Me Too. Would that he played more.
2) JANIS JOPLIN: Euphoria Ballroom, San Rafael, CA. 7/16/70. Janis joins Pigpen for "Lovelight" and they basically make fun of hippies for 16 minutes for not getting it on.
3)STEPHEN STILLS: Meadowlands Arena, NJ, 4/17/83...'cuz if you can't be with the one you love, honey, love the one you're with.
4) PETE TOWNSHEND: Gruga Halle, Essen, Germany, 3/28/81: Something about Pete and Jerry on the same stage rockin' the NFA...just feels right.
5) BRANFORD MARSALIS: Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, LI. 3/29/90...Practically re-invents Birdsong and Eyes of the World, blending seamlessly with the band. Also the best thing that EVER happened on Long Island, unless I guess if you'rwe an Islanders fan and remember the 4 Stanley Cups in a row they won in the 80's. But this was better.


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Next category: BEST WE HAVE JUST ROCKED YOUR WORLD AND FREAKED YOU OUT, AUDIENCE, AND WE KNOW IT! MOMENT:

1)Hampton, VA., 3/20/86, end of set 1. Not much to write home about to this point, until they pull out the first BOX OF RAIN in 14 f---in years. Madness ensues.
2) MSG, NYC, 10/11/83. Legend has it there was one Deadhead bopping around the Garden that night telling anyone who would listen that they were going to pull out the STEPHEN. Hadn't done it in 5 years. Most everyone told the guy to keep twirling and get out of their faces. In set 2, out of space, legend also has it he ascended to another dimension of time and space as waves of euphoria drenched the Garden at the opening notes of THE STEPHEN.
3)Oakland Coliseum, 12/15/86. After spending months in a diabetic coma, Jerry returns for his first gig since scaring everyone silly. They open with TOUCH OF GREY and just what color do you get when you mix tie-dye with the tears of thousands?
4) Winterland, SF, CA. 12/29/77. Tail end of the Dead's Best Year Ever (remember, I'm the MC, don't argue with me or I'll have you removed from the building), but the band had yet to do a ChinaCat>RIDER. It's not even on anyone's radar until, yep....they rip it out coming out of PITB...and of course, it's a killer version. Only one of 1977.
5) Berkely, CA., Greek Theater: 7/13/84. Imagine what the heads who expected another "Don't Ease" or "Johnny B Goode" encore felt when they came back to do a freaking DARK STAR???? And a great one at that.

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so that's the deal for now...feel free to vote now if you want, or keep adding categories or whatever. Just remember: If you don't vote for the Jerry of your choice, someone else probably will. Cheers.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jan 26, 2009 9:56pm
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My votes:

7/18/76 (something for everyone)
Janis (Janis: "What do you like?" Pig: "Turn around...") :)
12/15/86 (made me cry when I heard the AUD)

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Poster: GREENBUD Date: Jan 26, 2009 2:02pm
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most memerable weir vocal flubs ....and the jerry goes tohttp://www.archive.org/details/gd81-07-04.sbd.samaritano-miller.21802.sbeok.shnf nice bob 4 of july in texas. I M shure there is plenty more but that comes to mind as the toper

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 27, 2009 12:34pm
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Excellent category....for best jerry flub (of which there are many) I nominate the 4/16/78 Scarlet in which he says "she had rings on her fingers and shoes on her toes", or the Terrapin (i forget the date) in which he sings "strategy was his strength, and not DIDaster...")

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jan 27, 2009 3:25pm
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I'm fond of the IKYR on DIck's Pick's 24, where Jerry says: "I know a headlight, on a Northbound train..."

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 11, 2009 8:45pm
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Grendel! I finally, at long last, found the 'Didaster' version of Terrapin! It's 12/31/81...

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:08pm
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I liked No Country for Old Men. I can't think of any Coen Bros. films I don't like. You want to talk lame - Silence of the Lambs. Ok movie but NOT best picture imo.

Best supporting role to me is Branford hands down. None of the others you mentioned added anything at all imo. That's usually my problem with guest appearances, it's like it's Johnny B Goode ( generic ) time you know? Duane was cool but I'd take 2-11-70 or 6-10-73 over the 4-26-71, just in terms of adding something. Janis - just a novelty imo, the Etta James combo was more the real deal in that dept. imo.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:53pm
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OK, we're now defn back in one another's love (do we say that here?)...Whewww....

Couldn't agree with you more on that one, J! And I love Hopkins.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:15pm
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I always felt that Duane's presence on 4-26-71 was more reflected in Jerry's playing than the sound that Duane added. Jerry is pounding the wah-wah so much on that Sugar Mags you'd think he was trying to put his foot through the stage floor. I just figured that having Duane on stage playing a lead allowed him to do that. That all said, Branford's first appearance would be my pick as well.

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Poster: shiphappens Date: Jan 27, 2009 7:36am
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Thanks, JR

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jan 27, 2009 7:31am
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email sent....you can remove your email address if you wish.

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Poster: shiphappens Date: Jan 27, 2009 7:37am
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Thanks, revised my post. Did not even think about that.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: What are you trying to say???

Oh, I get it now.

OK, I'll get something together.

Right off the top of my head a few I'll be considering are Augusta 84, Barton Hall 81, Richmond 85, Anchorage 80, Lewiston 80...ahhh, so many shows, so little time. Well, as you all know this is hard to nail down as so many folks have widely varying opinions. Great idea though. Don't have my library handy right now, but if I dont get back on this in time, I guess I can go with what I've already mentioned, but we shall see.

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Poster: mreyus Date: Jan 26, 2009 10:04pm
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wow man,
you have way too much time on your hands.
get a life y,all

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jan 27, 2009 8:30am
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We have a life. This is it. We enjoy it very much!!
Thanks!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 8:47am
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Reminds of the wife and I "talking" with one of the kids: "why don't you two get a life!?" which we followed with "Sadly for you, with have ONE...it's YOURS."

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Poster: wineland Date: Jan 27, 2009 11:06am
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For the full Freak Out I vote for Phil's Raven Space.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-04-19.sbd.tobin.89313.sbeok.flac16

Scared the he11 out of my son when he was 3. Heck, it even scares the bajeezus out of me.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 27, 2009 12:37pm
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great dark horse pick...my favorite space of all time & i'm sorry I didn't mention it last week when it was Poe's 200th birthday.

Fans must have thought they were hallucinating when Phil started ranting about the dentist and Bobby just kept repeating "quoth the Raven: Nevermore."

So far the Jerry return of 12/15/86 seems to be the winner, though. (I would have picked the Stephen breakout, but I was there, so I'm biased.)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 27, 2009 12:43pm
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I'd take the Stephen breakout way over the Touch of Grey - hell, I thought Candyman was more hard hitting that night (I was there for that Touch, not for the Stephen).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 1:58pm
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You know, given the significance (StSt vs Touch? Are you fuckin kidding me?), you have to...but, the tragic irony is that for me, having been there in 76 for a few of em, I was FRICKIN disppointed in the slow, loping style with Donna, that, even then, I wished they hadn't brought it back.

Harsh, I know, but there you have it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:04pm
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I love the fact you are so critical - you know what you like, and damn it, you know what you don't. I don't disagree with those later Stephens. However, I can assume, based on being at the Box '86 breakout, Dark Star at Greek in '84, Ripple encore at shit (boring) shows in Landover, and then in Hampton in '89 (as well as the Jer comeback shows) that the electricty in the Garden must have been pretty awe inspiring when the crowd realized what was happening. Like the Box of Rain pretty much sucked at Hampton, but I didn't know because I couldn't hear a thing as it was one collective huge roar for the first minute or so.

S

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:44pm
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Hey BD...I was at that Hampton show, too, and you're right...if you go back and listen to the actual performance that was a pretty lame "Box"...and in fact, the Stephen at the garden in '83 (i was lucky enuff to be there too) would also not fall anywhere in anyone's top 10 (altho' it was significantly better played than the Box at Hampton)....but that's what's so amazing about the Deadhead devotion to the band, it's history, and the shows themselves...that the fan base could know and care that much about the gap between tunes played and to respond so emotionally to just the APPEARANCE of a certain song...is an amazing thing.

To me the Box at Hampton was remarkable for the surprise factor and for what happened as soon as it was over & the set ended...the streams of 'heads clogging the pay phone lines to tell all those "back home" what had just happened.

For sheer crowd unity of freakout/emotion factor, though, I never experienced anything like that Garden Stephen pullout in '83 (it also had the added bonus of the "In and out of the GARDEN he goes" line)....chills for sure.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:53pm
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grendel - I'm glad I wasn't in the know for the Greek, Friday the July 13th Full Moon Dark Star because the roar that went up when Phil hit those opening notes.... Perhaps my highest single moment at a show. Was standing on the top aisle between grass hill and upper edge of concrete seats (and had run into old, old friend right before encore in bathroom who gave me extra "boost" for the rest of the night). Damn, that was summer of 1984 and I still get chills.... (yea, I'm a pussy).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:47pm
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Yeah, the 74-82 period just didn't have the really significant moments that the latter yrs did...after Jerry had virtually DIED, I would NEVER take away from what the folks that experienced "I will survive!" had...that has to rank up there with THE most significant moments of ROCK (if that doesn't seem too snobbish)...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:50pm
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Sorry, had to add this: the first time I heard StSt at the Orpheum, believe it or not, for quite some number of notes, I had NO CLUE what song they were playing...

Should a fan of 68 admit to that?

Is it possible that a disciple of Aoxmoxoa would ever accept that someone (THEM--the DEAD) could do it in such a way as to cause confusion?

Sorry, babbling...

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jan 28, 2009 9:11am
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I think you're right on, WT. As big a fan as I am of the Orpheum 7/18/76 show, the St. Stephen is just...too...damn...slow. And I dearly love Donna, but she keeps coming in early (maybe she thought it was too slow too), so that it sounds like:
"saintSAINT Stephen with a rose..."

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:35pm
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I like it, for the FULL FREAKOUT category, I nominate the show/Darkstar from 10/26/89 >>
http://www.archive.org/details/gd89-10-26.set2.dsbd.miller.18664.shnf
Big write up about that in the Tapers Compendium

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Poster: wineland Date: Jan 27, 2009 3:46pm
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This is the perfect soundtrack for work right now. It's our fiscal year end on the 31st and nerves are a bit tight. Take two Dark Star neutron bombs and call me in the morning. Thank you.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 26, 2009 2:50pm
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OK, here are the obvious ones (and all united by firings, deaths and departures):

Best show after two band members have been fired:

10-12-68

Best show after two band members have been fired, but only one has been replaced:

12-29-68

Best show after one keyboard player has departed and another is about to arrive:

9-19-70

Best show just prior to the arrival of a Banshee:

8-6-71

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jan 27, 2009 3:41am
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Heh...nice picks.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 2:54pm
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Thanks. And, if there is one, I want to take you to the Prom.

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Jan 27, 2009 10:23pm
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Tempting offer....

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 28, 2009 6:27am
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Thank you for even considering it. I just hope Rob doesn't find out about this--he sometimes gets a little cranky when he finds me drooling about the place.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 28, 2009 8:13am
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Just be sure to wipe up after yourself ...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 28, 2009 8:26am
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It is good to know I can find you around when necessary (or just for fun and games).

Damn, that guitar auction thing SDH posted about has me wondering about our boys these days...just doesn't seem like the spirit of 68 to me.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 28, 2009 8:36am
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Here's some of that spirit - at least they still recognize it in others (I've really come to appreciate Jackie Green's work of late):

http://www.archive.org/details/radams2008-01-28.sbd.flac -= check out the first few numbers for a taste and tell me you don't feel the spirit of american beauty/workingman's dead in this stuff.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 28, 2009 9:02am
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Yes - that's the spirit indeed, bluedevil. There's a treasure trove of very fine Ryan and the Cardinals shows to be had here. RA's songwriting can be astonishingly accomplished and goes straight from the ears to lodge in the heart and brain. (We've had this conversation before haven't we?)

I like Jackie Green's stuff too. There used to be a few Jackie Green shows hidden away in the Open Source Audio archive but they seem to have vanished sadly. Phil is certainly a whole lot livelier playing with JG and Larry Campbell than he seems to be with Weir et al. JG simply takes control of the old Dead material and stamps his personality on it - but without losing respect for the original. I remember listening to him doing a barnstorming New Speedway where he quoted the Simpsons Theme part way through. That's chutzpah! And just a reminder that some of the Dead songs are strong enough to stand on their own apart from the band that made them.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 28, 2009 9:19am
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Yea, Jackie is from the area where I'm living (Salinas/Watsonville) so he often plays around here (Santa Cruz especially) and the local radio station, KPIG, plays a lot of his solo stuff and from 2 Skinny Guys (correct title?). Anyway, he seems to be a very accomplished singer/songwrite/gunslinger for a guy that is still several years shy of 30 and the more I hear, the more I like. That why I give Phil a big heap of "there ya go" for introducing those guys to a new and wider audience and taking chances with them - unlike what I feel this latest incarnation of the old brothers is up to. I certainly do not begrudge Phil, Bob, Mickey and Billy from wanting to play together again, and I sincerely wish them well and hope they have a blast and put money in the bank for them and theirs long after they pass, but from what little I've heard to date, I'll not be opening my wallet (not saying I won't go if get comped, but it will have to be a very convenient time and place).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 28, 2009 4:21pm
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I do! Thanks, man. And for the b-ball memories too...

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Jan 26, 2009 3:35pm
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LOL

Nice, Will!!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 26, 2009 12:54pm
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I was sorta hoping to get one: most utterly lame posts in one day.

And, now, as for the two of us and our issues: first, 77; and now, second, No Country. Didn't make sense? Why you little pinko leftist bleeding heart sonufobitch!

Okay, so much for the Hijack.

On with the game.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 26, 2009 12:58pm
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give us your 5 "best show of the 60's" picks...you reprobate, or prepare to be flogged within an inch of your worthless, Syncophant-for-the-Coen-Brothers life!

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Poster: Bassy Twang Date: Jan 26, 2009 2:46pm
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12/10/65 -
"Mime troupe Benefit - Appeal II, for Continued Artistic Freedom in the Arts". Other artist(s): Jefferson Airplane, the Great Society, John Handy Quintet, the Mystery Trend, the Gentlemen's Band, the VIP's and others. Transcribed by Teddy GoodBear: ||||on the town|||| Lesson for the S.F. In the Mime Benefit ||||by Ralph J. Gleason|||| the benefit for the San Francisco Mime troupe Friday night at the Fillmore Auditorium (it was billed as "Appeal II, for Continued Artistic Freedom in the Arts") was a roaring success. Over 3500 people paid $1.50 apiece to be there. But it was a great deal more than a benefit. It was substantiation of the suspicion that the need to dance on the part of a great number of residents of this area is so great it simply must be permitted. The Friday night affair was basically a rock 'n roll dance such as the ones the Family Dog put on at the Longshore Hall. If this city was run for the citizens, such affairs would be commonplace and conducted say, once a month at the Civic Auditorium where there used to be numerous dances during the swing era. * * * At 9:30 there was a double line a block long outside the Fillmore Auditorium. At 1 a.m. It was still there, the individuals were new but the packed house still existed. Inside a most remarkable assembladge of humanity was leaping, jumping, dancing, frigging, fragging and frugging on the dance floor to the music of the half dozen rock bands--The Mystery Trend, the Great Society, the Jefferson Airplane, the VIP's, the Gentlemen's Band, the Warlocks and others. The costumes were freeform Goodwill-cum-Sherwood Forest. Slim young ladies with their faces painted a la Harper's Bazzar in cats-and-dogs lines, granny dresses topped with hugh feathers, white hats with decals of mystic design; bell-bottoms split up the side! the combinations were seemingly limitless. At each end of the huge hall was a three foot high sign saying LOVE. Over the bar was another saying "No Booze", while the volunteer bartenders served soft drinks. Alongside the regular bar was a series of tables selling apples! the only dance (outside of Halloween) I've ever been at where they sold apples, Craaaazy! in a corner past the apple table was a baby in a carriage, sound asleep with a bottle and a Teddy bear clutched in his (her?) arms. This crowd was so far out that when Milton Hunt, the distinguished North Beach boulevardier, entered wearing a scrape and a black sombrero and escorting a girl dressed in a Vikki Duggins skirt (cut six inches below the hipline and supported by a thin net top and that's all!) no one turned a hair. It was that kind of a night. Although it was a benefit for the Mime troupe in its fight against "the law's delay, the insolence of office" to which their handest refers in Shakesphearean terms, there were thousands there who never heard of the Mime troupe or at least never had been in one of their shows, as Ronnie Davis pointed out. They were there for a multitude of reasons, and the reasons bear examination. Some were there because the Mime troupe represents, along with Jerry Ets Hotkins, a battle for creativity in the arts. Others, and more I suspect, were there because the Mime troupe's park use hassle dramatizes another aspect of the struggle of US against tHEM. Still others were there as part of the rock revolution. They don't. need booze (as the swing era dancers did). All they need is the sound of the guitars. They get high on decibels alone. and they are hurting to dance. * * * SAN FRANCISCO has been hell on dances for years. The police obviously regard mass proximity of the sexes to the sound of music as a hazard equal to a time bomb. But I suspect this attitude will have to be tempered. The actual demand for dances is going to increase. The whole rock revolution points to dancing, the music ineluctably moves one to move. Another thing about the Friday night revel. There were no guards inside. There was an absence of uniforms and there was no trouble. It was the kind of crowd were over a dozen people stopped dancing, got down on thier hands and knees to help a girl find a contact lens that had popped out during a particularly dramatic movement. They scrambled on the dance floor for a few minutes and found it. She cleaned it in her mouth, popped it back in and the dancing continued. Don't knock the rock, as the British used to say.--Ralph J. Gleason (S.F. Chronicle, 12/13/65). http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/12_10_65.html David Sorochty: FWIW Rock Scully gives the following info in his book "Living With the Dead": 12-10-65: Little Red Rooster, I Know You Rider, Midnight Hour, Early Morning Rain Obviously that info comes from memory, not tapes.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd65-acid-tests.sbd.bershaw.5406.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1966-01-29.sbd.bershaw.5411.shnf

Scorpio 45 RPM record. July 1966 release, but the actual date of the recording is more than likely sometime in June. See the above info listed under 6/??/66 and 2/5/66. From 'Taping Compendium': Gene Estribou had the first four-track in the San Francisco area, Buena Vista Studio, and here the Dead cut their first demo in June 1966. He was introduced to the Dead by photographer Herb Greene, when the band was playing in Palo Alto and Garcia still played bluegrass. Gene Estribou: First we had an Ampex three-channel instrumentation deck that Henry Jacobs brought into the studio. I had built a big horn and a studio and we had good condenser mikes and spent a lot of time optimizing the board. We went down to Western Recording and used their studio for doing some tapes that ended up being on the first 45 from Scorpio... See these 45's produced under the "Scorpio" labels: http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/stealin.jpg http://www.pompano.net/~goodbear/concert_art/dontez.jpg Michael Wanger: Teddy, thanks for your inquiry. Here's a bit of history: I met Bob Weir while attending Menlo School for Boys in 1961. Through Bob, I met his good friend, Vance Frost. Bob and I pursued our mutual interest in folk music and eventually performed together in a band called "The Uncalled Four." During the summer of 1964, while Vance and I were traveling around the country living out of a '56 Chevy station wagon, my brother, Peter Wanger, made a recording of Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions at top of the tangent in Palo Alto. Many years later, while attending Stanford University, I had a radio program for which I produced a series of documentaries on various aspects of the sixties' folk and rock and roll scene. After several programs, I asked my friend Vance to accompany me on air in order to provide a little more liveliness to the program. This approach was so successful that we decided to take it to the next step. We approached KSAN's Program Director, tom Donahue, with the idea of producing similar documentaries for KSAN. We wanted to start with Grateful Dead because we knew some of the band members and had the McCree recording. Donahue gave us an official go-ahead, so in the late fall and early winter of 1968 we began our interviews. We met with the entire band at Alembic, the band's Marin "clubhouse" as they called it, and recorded everyone but Pigpen who declined to be interviewed. We got such great stuff that we charged ahead with interviews of John Cipollina and David Freiberg of Quicksilver Messenger Service, Paul Kantner and Spencer Dryden of Jefferson Airplane and Ralph J. Gleason, the jazz critic for the S. F. Chronicle who was a strong advocate for the new music that was coming out of San Francisco. Starting in early 1969, we began putting the pieces together using the equipment at Golden State Recorders where Vance worked as an engineer. To fill out the early part of Grateful Dead's music history, we requested some early recordings. Rock Sculley gave us the first two singles, "Stealin'" and "Don't Ease Me In," along with some Fillmore recordings from 1966. We made copies and returned the originals to the Dead. The tape box labels featured on page 104 of the "The Deadhead's taping Compendium" is our label for those tapes. The documentary aired on KSAN in June, 1969. I guess there was an assumption, based on those box labels, that Vance and I had made some early recordings of Grateful Dead. Well, sad to say, it never happened. Currently, I am working with Grateful Dead Productions on an Enhanced CD of the McCree recording. The multimedia portion will contain a 1964 interview with Jerry, Bob and other band members. I also expect to include the first 11 minutes of the documentary which traces Grateful Dead's history up through their jug band period. Well, Teddy, it's been fun dredging up all these memories. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best, Michael Wanger 11/24/98

http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-07-01.sbd.vernon.19924.sbeok.shnf

Bill Gallagher: in the book "Berkeley At War" by WJ Rorabaugh (1989), p. 145 it says "In 1967 Canyon's hippies held a benefit concert to raise money to rebuild their general store. Country Joe McDonald, the Grateful Dead and others came to play. The narrow, winding road into Canyon was clogged with flower-painted VW vans." Canyon is a small community over the hill from Berkeley towards Moraga and Walnut Creek. Bill Gallagher contacted Country Joe and he said: "The benefit was held in Canyon, I believe, in the school yard of the little private school. I have a couple of posters of the event. cheers, cjm" Please DO NOT ask CJ for the poster

SEEN MY HOT WHEELS OR MY KALAMAZOO ?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1967-xx-xx.sbd.studio.81259.flac16



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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Jan 26, 2009 6:29pm
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Very cool idea grendel! I can't help with coming up with extra categories but here are my votes:

8/27/72
Branford
12/15/86

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:09pm
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Can I just put in a suggestion for inclusion in the 'freaked you out' category?

http://www.archive.org/details/gd95-03-19.schoeps.15097.sbeok.shnf

The first ever Unbroken Chain. It's a nothing kind of a show and I guess everyone knew the end of the road was in sight, but the electricity that runs through the audience when they realize what's happening is one of the last great moments of the Grateful Dead experience.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:40pm
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the electic Ripple encore merits consideration

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:55pm
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Damn it--this is just like the UN! You guys keep coming up with add-ons and extra provisions....

actually, those are pretty good...I had considered the Warlocks show, but it got pushed out by the '77 chinarider...my '77 bias....and the Ripple from '88...yes, that merits inclusion....alright, forget the 5-nominee rule...just don't let it get outta hand!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jan 26, 2009 2:10pm
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not to complicated things further, but what about the first 'reuben and cherise,' 3/17/91?

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:18pm
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fair enough, Rob...i'll bend the rules to allow an extra nominee...The Chain was one of "those songs" folks wondered if they'd ever really play.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: Jan 26, 2009 1:36pm
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Hampton 89 shows...DS and Attics.

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Poster: ganges Date: Jan 27, 2009 12:03am
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GC - very nice post, also because I don't like the whole oscar thing (to say the least). I especially like the idea of the 3rd category, and that one is hard.

Since the 2 of us (GC and me) seem to be the most devoted 77 addicts around here I will go for 10-29-77 (of course) and without hesitating for Branford in the 2nd.

Because of the year I would probably go for 12-29-77 in the 3rd, but it is a hard decision.

SDH - my 80s show would be 80 Anchorage. And WT - I KNOW I HAVE TO GO BACK to my roots, which were 68 - 70, and I have started..., still a couple of shows on the HD to listen to. But with all your input I will get there!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 27, 2009 8:12am
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Ha--good to hear! Just be careful: these roots have a way of wrapping you up so tight in the early era you won't find the time or interest (!) to go anywhere else!